I must admit I do like a bit more of a natural look in my women. Heck I even like women with a bit more weight on them than these scrawny girls you see (what the hell is size 0 anyway?).

But at what point is there a limit? I think to each their own. If a woman wants to do that to herself to feel more attractive, then what do I care? Would I want my woman doing that to herself? No. Then again women like Jennifer Aniston aren't with me anyway.

But on the same token talking about waxing this and that, what about shaving of legs? Armpits? Waxing facial hair? Eyebrow plucking, and simply makeup. I mean can you really pick on any one of those things without pointing out the others that are more commonly accepted? One might argue the difference between shaving/plucking and plastic surgery, but waxing is hardly plastic surgery. Why is the line drawn at waxing of the pubic region?!?

I admit I like a more "natural" looking woman than those of adult entertainment (not that I mind looking at that either), but I personally like some of the grooming that has become culturally acceptable. I usually cross the line at surgical alterations (usually meaning, I think it's ok for people who have suffered something (mastectomy, etc.) that just want to feel normal, and can understand the feeling).

People are different, and it's those differences that I very much enjoy.

Good point!

The question, I think, is why it makes her feel more attractive. It gets in to somewhat disturbing notions of what we consider attractive -- the young boy or young girl with breasts aspect of it. Pushing the bounds of sexuality just a bit further. The next paragraph of the piece the quote is selected on expounds on this:

//Men "manscape" to make their endowments more impressive; women line up for vaginal plastic surgery. A beautiful woman wandering naked through an apartment isn't anything special; she needs to be waxed to turn her boyfriend's head.//

I honestly don't have that much a problem with a shaved vaginal area -- I'm pretty indifferent. A lot of what it comes down are the more unnatural things than shaving or not shaving: the plastic surgery, fake tans, and so on. The combination of these things... to what end?

It all comes out in a mythical notion of beauty. The tendency has been to blame this on men, but it women do it to themselves as often as not (the size 0s are featured in Cosmo, not Playboy).

Plucking eyebrows is free of everything but time. Makeup is rather cheap, shaving legs moreso. I don't consider vaginal shaving to be substantially different. But the combination of these things... the taking it a step further, and another step, and another step... that's what is indicative of a problem -- at least to me. Since attractiveness at that level is a zero-sum game, it becomes an arms race.

But then again like you I do prefer natural (I've seen Camille in makeup three times, ever), so I may be biased in this regard.

I wonder if we will someday reach the point where an attractive woman looks absolutely freakish because it's a way to differentiate the rich and the poor (in the same way that some women's outfits draw attention to any excess weight, so that those with none can wear stuff that those with some cannot).