Why The Liberals Are Wrong on Education
R. Alex Whitlock
[Originally posted on the original RAWbservations]

A couple years back, I was in a conversation with the (then) president of the UH Democrats, in which she touched on just about every Republican I don't care much for (David Dewhurst, Tom DeLay, etc) and mentioned a couple Democrats that I don't hold in as low regard as others (Chris Bell, John Sharp). At some point she asked me "How is it that you're a Republican again?"

The thought has occured to me that RAWbservations has been drifting a bit to the left lately. Opposition to the death penalty, concern for wealth inequality, pro-gay marriage, and so on. Rest assured, I am no further to the left than I was when the site was started over six months ago.

So, I'll start on issue #1 with which I cannot stomach establishment Democratic policy: Education.

The Democratic approach to education seems to be "Don't change a thing! Just send more money into our failing system!"

I had to read over that statement a couple times to make sure that I'm not being unfair, but after doing so, I don't believe that I am. They state that (a) any substantial change to the system is bad, (b) the system needs more money because (c) it's failing.

One would surmise from the gyst of that statement that the system is failing for lack of money. In a way, that may be true. Not enough money makes it into the classroom and schools often cannot afford what ought to be basic educational equipment. What I don't buy, however, is the notion that there is not enough money going into the system and, furthermore, putting more money into the system would be a substantial benefit. In Texas, the average Houston Independent School District student is worth $6,500 to the district (that stats on this are a bit outdated, but the point stands). The average student in neighboring suburban Clear Creek Independent School District is given $5,500. The latter offers a substantially better education.

Of course, one could argue that the HISD needs more money than the CCISD because the latter has the cream of the crop. They have the children of engineers and professionals. They have computers and home and so forth. That's both true and valid. However, how much money would it take to compensate for parents who cannot afford to assist their children's education or choose not to? How much is that worth? In my case, it's invaluable. Without my father's demand that I stay focused, my grades would have perpetually stayed poor and I never would have gone to college. Others get by without my parental support, though, so it's a difficult thing to gauge.

So would an extra $1,000 per student do it? Apparently not. What about $2,000? What about $3,500 per student (enough for a laptop and substantial educational software for every student. Well, it so happens that $10,000 is about what the Washington DC school district spends per pupil, and it is universally regarded as one of the worst school districts in the country. You could argue that the DC school district is abnormally corrupt, but money feeds corruption. Throw enough money at the HISD without reform and it'll start looking a lot more like the DC district. Why? Because money or no, they presently have no incentive to improve. They have a captive audience and virtually no one to answer to.

So what would work? That brings me to the next part of my statement: "Don't change a thing."

Now, liberals don't say that much. They are rhetorically in favor of reform, until you start making suggestions. After which, they reflexively oppose any actual substantive change. Some may support some measures and others may support others, but at the end of the day the Democratic establishment is hostile to each and every change I have heard to date. Some examples:

Standardized tests: "They will just start teaching to the test!" and "Some students are not good test takers.

I can vouch for their claim. When I was in school, TAAS testing took up a load of my English course. What I do remember, though, is that my teachers were never more serious about anything than they were about preparing for that test. We spent class after class going over insipid analogies which were a crux of the test at the time. The answer, though, is not to abolish standardized tests, but rather make them more reflective of what students need to know so that when they're "teaching to the test" they're actually teaching the students what they need to know. Then they go to their next argument.

It's true, some students are not good test takers. I'm one of them. I failed the TAAS test not once but twice. I had to take a remedial reading course because of it. That being said, tough luck. Give students multiple chances to take the test, require remedial classes, but making them somehow prove that they've learned something and don't have a socially promotioned diploma. I have always been a slow reader and the TAAS test's time is what tripped me up. Making me prepare to take it again would have done me much more good than harm (it's a bit of a moot point since I passed the exit TAAS exam with flying colors, but the general point stands).

Charter schools: "There is no oversight"

Most Democrats don't come out opposed to charter schools outright. Instead, they promote an increasing amount of oversight. That, of course, defeats the entire purpose of charter schools to begin with. The more oversight, the less charter. They are meant to be able to experiment. They need to be able to try new things. Even new things that [gasp] the teachers unions don't approve of. They need to be able to set their own academic calender, schedule, and curriculum. Forcing them to abide by the same rules as standard schools merely waters it down. Once it's watered down, then Dems and libs can point out that they're not all that effective. The convenience of this is not accidental.

So am I suggesting that they be able to do whatever they want and thus be free not to teach the kids a damn thing? No. They would be required to take the same standardized tests as above. That way, they have to teach the same basics, but are given flexibility to do so how they choose. Ironically (and conveniently) they oppose charter schools partially on the grounds for which they oppose the remedy as well.

Vouchers: "It takes money from public schools" and "It's a violation of church and state" and "It'll only help the students that least need helping"

The first argument is just silly. Yes, it does take money from public schools, but it also relieves them of some of their responsibilities. Currently, schools are overcrowded, so think of it as a way to ease that. If the schools have too many students, then take some of them away and it's win-win. But no, schools want to have their cake and eat it too. It's a flawed argument, to say the least.

The second argument is also wrong-headed (though I'm willing to give those who make it the benefit of the doubt for good intentions whereas I'm not on the first). So does money going to religious institutions to provide an education create a problem for church and state? I would have to argue not, and I have existing law to back me up on it. Those recieving money from the Montgomery GI Bill can spend their money at any institution they choose (even Baylor and Brigham Young). Because it's there choice, it does not constitute government-sponsored religion. Now, if you believe that's wrong, I disagree but at least you're ideologically consistent. So to those who make this argument: Do you agree that vouchers or constitutional or would you say that Montgomery GI Bill folks shouldn't be able to go to Notre Dame?

And on the last argument, I concur that in its existing form vouchers would only help a small number of students. That's why they are part of the answer and not the entire answer. Additionally, when these programs are started, new schools will pop up. The same applies to charter schools.

So even though vouchers and charter schools are not the answer, they can be a part of the answer. They are at least doing something, but liberals are so interested in preserving the status quo that they find reasons to oppose anything and everything to disrupt the school system that is, in their own admission, failing the kids. So should I call them liberals, conservatives, or just plain wrong?
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RAW wrote:
I don't know if you've been drifting to the left, Alex, as I have no benchmark for comparison, but there's no way the opinions you express here are anywhere near as conservative as those you expressed in the Coog.

And not all liberals disagree with you on education. I don't have any qualms about your analyses, although technically I do think vouchers violate separation of church and state (however, I seen the violation as de minimis, and have never understood why so many liberals adamantly oppose vouchers).
Daniel Goldberg | Email | Homepage | 01.31.03 - 10:23 am | #

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There speaketh a guy who has not sent a kid to Baptist school in Texas. It is not a de minimus violation of the separation of church and state to send kids in for religious brainwashing. Don't tell me it doesn't happen--I've been there.

As for HISD, we know what's wrong with it. HISD has been told 3 or 4 times that I know of that it needs to be broken into 3 or 4 smaller districts so it can more adequately provide services to kids. Smaller districts need fewer layers of management, so it shouldn't cost any more to have 3 or 4 districts where we used to have one. And cutting the management fat at HISD could only help matters.

I'm in favor of kids being able to move between public schools, but I really don't see why parents should get tax money to send their kids to private school. School taxes are fundamentally redistributive (otherwise I wouldn't be paying them); they are not for the purpose of educating *this* child, but providing free education for *all children*. If the free education is not what you want, work on making it better, or get out of the system.

Call me a libertarian, but if you want to send your kids to a private school, pay for it yourself. You always have that right. And sure, it's unfair that some people have more money than others, but life is often unfair that way.
Ginger | Email | Homepage | 01.31.03 - 10:46 am | #

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The First Amendment doesn't use the phrase "separation of church and state." All is says is that 1) the government cannot establish a state religion, and 2) the government cannot inhibit the free exercise of religion. These are the establishment and free exercise clauses -- there is no "separation clause."

Clearly, vouchers do not establish a state religion, and neither do they harm the free exercise of religion. They are no more constitutionally impermissible than the G.I. Bill, Pell Grants, or the subcontracting of special education in rural areas to private schools.

If someone doesn't like vouchers, I have no problem with that, but I think those who claim that they are unconstitutional are arguing in bad faith.
Owen Courrèges | Email | Homepage | 01.31.03 - 5:28 pm | #
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RAW wrote:
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James Madison and Thomas Jefferson both used the phrase "separation of church and state" in numerous letters.

Of course the Constitution doesn't use the words "separation of church and state." No one says it does. The question is whether the meaning of the Establishment Clause incorporates such a notion.

I've done quite a bit of reading and research on the subject, Owen, and the historical evidence is at best uncertain. Second Amendment supporters are correct when they assert that historical evidence does not support the 'militia interpretation' advocated by gun control proponents. The evidence on the First Amendment is not nearly so clear.

There is ample evidence that both Madison and Jefferson intended precisely the concept of separation of church and state to inform their understanding of the meaning of the establishment clause.

It is certainly not bad faith to argue that taxpayer funds used to support religious inculcation is government establishment of religion. You may not agree with that opinion, which is legitimate, but I can't see any way that such an argument constitutes bad faith.
Daniel Goldberg | Email | Homepage | 01.31.03 - 5:58 pm | #

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Daniel,

I don't believe that either Jefferson Madison interpreted "separation of church and state" to mean anything other than the idea that we cannot establish a state religion. Neither of them opposed the chaplaincy in Congress, and Jefferson made numerous references to a deity in the Declaration of Independence. There is practically no grounding for the ultra-secularist viewpoint vis-a-vis the First Amendment (don't get me started on the Newdow decision, by the way).

And I stand by my statement that a person who opposes vouchers must also oppose the G.I. Bill and Pell Grants in their current form. Since very few voucher opponents actually do, I call it a bad faith argument. They combine a largely unsupported view of the First Amendment with an inconsistent application.
Owen Courrèges | Email | Homepage | 01.31.03 - 8:48 pm | #

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All I can add Alex is to check out the Progressive Policy Institute Website ... some of the more cutting edge thinking about education policy going on there. And yes, they're all Democrats, and they fall almost completely through the holes left open in the arguments which you've underscored. Not to rip off Bill Clinton too much, but yes ... there is a third way.
gregwythe | Email | Homepage | 02.01.03 - 10:54 pm
7/9/2003
 
MG wrote:
Vouchers more like win-lose.

A lottery decides who gets vouchers. A few are rewarded with a private school education while those not chosen must stay in the neighborhood public school which just lost a substantial amount of funding. This is not an equal opportunity eduation.

Most private schools provide a religious foundation to students. Many Catholic private schools force the students to attend a daily church service. The Constitution does not promote the indoctrinate the pope's views on abortion and creation to the public. Even if the parents choose a religious school, public funds are still used for religious instruction.

Private schools can choose to admit or deny anyone for any reason. If the principle and priests do not prefer students of a certain ethnicity or handicap, they can deny them admission. Public schools must accept everyone. So if your kid is smart you win, if he/she is LD or physically disabled you lose.

According to research studies, for 13 years public-sponsored voucher programs here in Milwaukee have not yielded any positive correlation between higher achievement of the choice student in private schools than a student enrolled in Milwaukee Public Schools (John Witte, U of Wisconsin). 1/4 of MPS students are attending private schools. (Further studies found a correlation but only included data from the best 3 out of 20 total schools examined)

A private school voucher program isn't a panacea for the nations education problem, it just saps the money from it. School vouchers cause more harm than help to the education system. Vouchers punish tax-payers with an increased burden of paying for long-distance bus transportation and parochial school tution--individuals who already provide funds for public education.

What are 99% of choice programs sponsored by? Large corporations. What for? So they don't have to pay taxes. Corporations win this battle.
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